The ASMR talk show hosted by Adam Papagan. This week, Adam tells the story of The 20 Mule Team. Then we speak with poet Andrew Choate, who is also the world's leading authority on bollards. Bollards are the concrete poles placed around buildings and parking lots to prevent cars from driving into things. Andrew talks about his favorite bollard, as well as his long time dream of purposely driving a car into a bollard.

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