If you’re a long-time listener then you’ll know I love tapping into other people’s expertise, especially when it’s sp specific yet somehow incredibly applicable to everyday life. Case-in-point: hostage negotiator Scott Walker. 

We obviously enter this conversation via Scott’s insights on risk, which when you consider what he does for a living, is truly fascinating. I can’t even imagine what risks one has to consider when bartering with kidnappers but Scott actually thinks there’s more than one way to look at risk, which is a perspective I really appreciated.

Scott’s book Order Out of Chaos is available now.

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