A fourth generation Los Angeles native, Oliver Furth worked for some of the city’s biggest names—including Martyn Lawrence Bullard and Michael S. Smith—before going out on his own. Two decades into running his own firm, Oliver’s vibrant work has earned him a spot on both ’s A-List and the AD100. Now he’s releasing his debut book, , a celebration of his upbeat approach to design. On this episode of the podcast, Furth speaks with host Dennis Scully about how writing a book helped him define his style, why he’s not interested in product licensing, and why being a designer is like conducting a symphony. This episode is sponsored by The Shade Store https://www.theshadestore.com/trade and Hartmann&Forbes https://hartmannforbes.com/ OLIVER FURTH https://www.olivermfurth.com/ OP! OPTIMISTIC INTERIORS https://www.rizzoliusa.com/book/9780847873609/ Dennis Scully https://www.instagram.com/dennisscully/ Business of Home https://dashboard.simplecast.com/accounts/3ed13173-d92f-44f6-b8ce-d831e9672af7/shows/7a3106dd-e66b-4e68-9be2-0ac7b3125cc3/episodes/5d4c2a9c-d34c-48ec-97a4-3d8ee3084bb1/www.businessofhome.com
executive editor Fred Nicolaus https://instagram.com/frednicolaus and host Dennis Scully https://instagram.com/dennisscully discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including the shutdown of Pirch https://businessofhome.com/articles/pirch-halts-operations, Burke Decor's recent issues https://businessofhome.com/articles/what-s-going-on-with-burke-decor, RH’s latest earnings call, and a look at how Paris stays This episode is sponsored by Loloi https://www.loloirugs.com/ and Chelsea House https://www.chelseahouseinc.com/ Business of Home https://businessofhome.com/
An architect by training, Tom Scheerer’s career in design began almost on a whim, when he and Jeffrey Bilhuber met and agreed to collaborate on a room in a showhouse. Their partnership was short lived, but it led Scheerer into what became a sparkling career, with projects around the world, two books, and regular appearances on r’s A List and the AD100. Now, he’s winding down his firm, and, through a unique profit-sharing agreement, handing off more and more of the business to his employees. On this episode of the podcast, he speaks with host Dennis Scully about why it was an advantage to never apprentice for another designer, why he never got deeply into licensed product, and why the most important quality a client can have is a sense of humor. This episode is sponsored by Spring Street by Pollack https://springstreettextiles.com/ and Crypton https://www.crypton.com/boh TOM SCHEERER https://tomscheerer.com/ Dennis Scully https://www.instagram.com/dennisscully/ Business of Home https://dashboard.simplecast.com/accounts/3ed13173-d92f-44f6-b8ce-d831e9672af7/shows/7a3106dd-e66b-4e68-9be2-0ac7b3125cc3/episodes/5d4c2a9c-d34c-48ec-97a4-3d8ee3084bb1/www.businessofhome.com
executive editor Fred Nicolaus https://instagram.com/frednicolaus and host Dennis Scully https://instagram.com/dennisscully discuss the biggest news in the industry, including Williams Sonoma’s latest earnings report, rising homebuilder sentiment, and a look at why so many independent furniture stores are closing https://businessofhome.com/articles/are-furniture-stores-dying-or-just-changing. Later, real estate reporter Debra Kamin joins the show to discuss her reporting on the stunning NAR settlement https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/15/realestate/national-association-realtors-commission-settlement.html that will upend the way homes are bought and sold. This episode is sponsored by Loloi https://www.loloirugs.com/ and Chelsea House https://www.chelseahouseinc.com/ Debra Kamin https://www.debrakamin.com/ Business of Home https://businessofhome.com/
Since its founding in 2004, rug brand Loloi has expanded from scrappy upstart into a major industry player, with marquee collections by designers like Joanna Gaines, Amber Lewis and Jean Stoffer. Brothers Cyrus and Steven Loloi, who grew up in the business started by their father Amir, are now helping to lead it. On this episode of podcast, they chat with host Dennis Scully about the delicate balance of choosing the right licensing partners, their thoughts on what AI can and can’t do, and what it will take to engage the next generation of designers. This episode is sponsored by Spring Street by Pollack https://springstreettextiles.com/ and Crypton https://www.crypton.com/boh LOLOI https://www.loloirugs.com/ Dennis Scully https://www.instagram.com/dennisscully/ Business of Home https://dashboard.simplecast.com/accounts/3ed13173-d92f-44f6-b8ce-d831e9672af7/shows/7a3106dd-e66b-4e68-9be2-0ac7b3125cc3/episodes/5d4c2a9c-d34c-48ec-97a4-3d8ee3084bb1/www.businessofhome.com
BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the industry, including Design Holding's new Manhattan showroom, a good year for Arhaus, and the rise of intentionally flawed furniture https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/07/style/furniture-flaws-imperfections.html. Later, designer Timothy Corrigan joins the show to talk about how a credit dispute in the pages of https://businessofhome.com/articles/how-a-credit-dispute-at-architectural-digest-kicked-off-an-industry-conversation-about-ethics brought a taboo topic into the open. This episode is sponsored by Loloi https://www.loloirugs.com/ and Chelsea House https://www.chelseahouseinc.com/ Timothy Corrigan https://www.timothy-corrigan.com/ Business of Home https://businessofhome.com/
Born in New Zealand, Veere Grenney made his way to England as a young man and stayed there—but being an immigrant and a little bit of an outsider has always informed his playful, eclectic approach. After working for Mary Fox Linton and at Colefax & Fowler, Grenney started his own firm—his work has since appeared in countless shelter publications and won a range of accolades, including a regular spot on the AD100. On this episode of the podcast, Grenney speaks with host Dennis Scully about why a little bit of bad taste can be a good thing, the tricks he borrows from David Hicks, and why the most important skill a designer can have is being good with people. This episode is sponsored by Spring Street by Pollack https://springstreettextiles.com/ and Crypton https://www.crypton.com/boh VEERE GRENNEY https://veeregrenney.com/ Dennis Scully https://www.instagram.com/dennisscully/ Business of Home https://dashboard.simplecast.com/accounts/3ed13173-d92f-44f6-b8ce-d831e9672af7/shows/7a3106dd-e66b-4e68-9be2-0ac7b3125cc3/episodes/5d4c2a9c-d34c-48ec-97a4-3d8ee3084bb1/www.businessofhome.com
BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus https://www.instagram.com/frednicolaus joins host Dennis Scully https://www.instagram.com/dennisscully to go over the biggest news in the industry, including a new AI startup from a superstar athlete, the shutdown of Renovation Angel, and a look at the latest microtrend sweeping TikTok. Later, sustainability columnist Laura Fenton discusses practical steps to a greener design firm https://businessofhome.com/news/tagged/sustainability. This episode is sponsored by Loloi https://www.loloirugs.com and Chelsea House https://www.chelseahouseinc.com Laura Fenton https://www.laura-fenton.com/ Business of Home https://businessofhome.com/
Founded in the 1930s, Sibyl Colefax & John Fowler is a British institution, a revered design firm with a client list that includes royalty from around the world, celebrities and titans of industry. Today it’s part of a larger business group that includes the fabric brands Cowtan & Tout and Manual Canovas, while the firm itself operates as a kind of collective, with six individual designers running their own studios under a collective umbrella. On this episode of the podcast, principals Emma Burns and Philip Hoover speak with host Dennis Scully about why the unique structure of the firm is a strength, why American clients are easier than British ones, and why the next generation of designers needs to step away from the computer. This episode is sponsored by Pollack https://www.pollackassociates.com and Crypton https://www.crypton.com/boh SIBYL COLEFAX & JOHN FOWLER https://www.sibylcolefax.com/ Dennis Scully https://www.instagram.com/dennisscully/ Business of Home https://dashboard.simplecast.com/accounts/3ed13173-d92f-44f6-b8ce-d831e9672af7/shows/7a3106dd-e66b-4e68-9be2-0ac7b3125cc3/episodes/5d4c2a9c-d34c-48ec-97a4-3d8ee3084bb1/www.businessofhome.com
BOH managing editor HALEY CHOUINARD https://www.instagram.com/haleychouinard/ joins host Dennis Scully https://www.instagram.com/dennisscully to go over the biggest news in the industry, including the newest cast member, Houzz’s state of the industry report, and why renovations are starting to feel outdated faster than ever. Later, Founder and Creative Director of Firmdale Hotels and Kit Kemp Design Studio, Kit Kemp, discusses her latest project, the Warren Street Hotel. This episode is sponsored by Loloi https://www.loloirugs.com/account/register FIRMDALE HOTELS https://www.firmdalehotels.com Kit Kemp https://kitkemp.com Business of Home https://businessofhome.com/
In 2003, the arbiters of taste were obsessed with Europe—but David Alhadeff decided to open up a gallery for contemporary design in Brooklyn. It was a gamble, but it paid off, and over the past twenty years The Future Perfect has helped put American industrial designers on the map. In the process, Alhadeff has built a unique business model, eventually combining a gallery space with his own home in Los Angeles. On this episode of the podcast, he speaks with host Dennis Scully about finding ways to change within the constraints of a small business, how Los Angeles compares to New York as a market for design, and why you can’t have scale and cache at the same time. This episode is sponsored by Minted https://www.minted.com/lp/trade THE FUTURE PERFECT https://www.thefutureperfect.com/ Dennis Scully https://www.instagram.com/dennisscully/ Business of Home https://dashboard.simplecast.com/accounts/3ed13173-d92f-44f6-b8ce-d831e9672af7/shows/7a3106dd-e66b-4e68-9be2-0ac7b3125cc3/episodes/5d4c2a9c-d34c-48ec-97a4-3d8ee3084bb1/www.businessofhome.com
BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus https://www.instagram.com/frednicolaus joins host Dennis Scully https://www.instagram.com/dennisscully to go over the biggest news in the industry, including the launch of Fred Segal Home, a look at the “Wild West” of online photo theft, and why “unexpected red” has gone viral on social media. Later, Havenly CEO Lee Mayer discusses her purchase of The Citizenry and her plans to build a millennial-focused house of brands. This episode is sponsored by Loloi https://www.loloirugs.com/account/register Havenly https://www.havenly.com The Citizenry https://www.the-citizenry.com Business of Home https://businessofhome.com/
Architect, designer and artist Suchi Reddy is devoted to the study of neuroaesthetics—the science of how art and design affects the brain and body. Through collaborative installations with Google and Johns Hopkins University, she’s brought real data to the big questions about whether good design is good for our wellbeing. On this episode of the podcast, Reddy speaks with host Dennis Scully about why “style” is the wrong way to think about what works about a room, how AI will help eliminate mediocrity, and why our homes make us who we are. This episode is sponsored by Minted https://www.minted.com/lp/trade SUCHI REDDY https://reddymade.design/ Dennis Scully https://www.instagram.com/dennisscully/ Business of Home https://dashboard.simplecast.com/accounts/3ed13173-d92f-44f6-b8ce-d831e9672af7/shows/7a3106dd-e66b-4e68-9be2-0ac7b3125cc3/episodes/5d4c2a9c-d34c-48ec-97a4-3d8ee3084bb1/www.businessofhome.com
BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus https://www.instagram.com/frednicolaus joins host Dennis Scully https://www.instagram.com/dennisscully to go over the biggest news in the industry, including a huge shift in global manufacturing, a look at whether Apple’s new headset will matter for designers, and why rumors about the death of drapery have been greatly exaggerated. Later, Pooky Lighting founder Rohan Blacker shares his winding entrepreneurship journey, and explains the sudden rise of rechargeable lamps. This episode is sponsored by Loloi https://www.loloirugs.com/account/register Pooky https://www.us.pooky.com/ Business of Home https://businessofhome.com/
Ron Radziner and his partner Leo Marmol started in the late 1980s as young residential architects with a somewhat novel approach: They would not only design homes, but build them too. Thirty years later, Marmol Radziner has 200 employees, and Ron and Leo are both in the Interior Design Hall of Fame. But they still do as much in-house as possible, from design and construction to producing a line of furniture and even jewelry. On this episode of the podcast, Radziner speaks with host Dennis Scully about the Richard Neutra house that jump-started their career, working with fashion designer Tom Ford, and the risks and rewards of doing every element of a project yourself. This episode is sponsored by Minted https://www.minted.com/lp/trade. Marmol Radziner https://www.marmol-radziner.com Dennis Scully https://www.instagram.com/dennisscully/ Business of Home https://dashboard.simplecast.com/accounts/3ed13173-d92f-44f6-b8ce-d831e9672af7/shows/7a3106dd-e66b-4e68-9be2-0ac7b3125cc3/episodes/5d4c2a9c-d34c-48ec-97a4-3d8ee3084bb1/www.businessofhome.com
BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus https://www.instagram.com/frednicolaus joins host Dennis Scully https://www.instagram.com/dennisscully to go over the biggest news in the industry, including a greenwashing ban, AI dream homes, and a look at the evolution of the sales rep. Later, real estate consultant Jonathan Miller shares some good news about the housing market. This episode is sponsored by Loloi https://www.loloirugs.com/account/register Miller Samuels https://millersamuel.com/ Business of Home https://businessofhome.com/
The last time Zak Profera was on the podcast https://businessofhome.com/articles/zak-profera-on-why-zak-fox-stopped-selling-to-consumers, he told the story of building a beloved brand, step by meticulous step. Two years later, after grappling with personal loss, he’s back with an ambitious new collection, Harvest. On this episode of the podcast, Profera speaks with host Dennis Scully about using fiction and film to tell the story of his work, why finding a manufacturing partner is like dating, and why a little bit of struggle is a healthy part of the creative process. LINKS ZAK+FOX https://www.zakandfox.com Dennis Scully https://www.instagram.com/dennisscully Business of Home https://www.businessofhome.com
BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus https://www.instagram.com/frednicolaus joins host Dennis Scully https://www.instagram.com/dennisscully to go over the biggest news in the industry, including a ban on renovations in Beverly Hills, how luxury brands are reaching the one percent, and the fate of the formal dining room. Later, Helen Allen, executive director of The Winter Show, discusses the rise of young collectors. This episode is sponsored by Loloi https://www.loloirugs.com/account/register The Winter Show https://www.thewintershow.org/ Business of Home https://businessofhome.com/
Kyra and Robertson Hartnett started Twenty2 by making their own product, a line of modernist wallpaper they debuted at ICFF in 2003. But over time, they began making things for others. Now, out of a fast-expanding facility in Connecticut, the studio digitally prints wallpaper and textiles for a roster of designers and brands, including Rebecca Atwood, Eskayel, St. Frank, Rule of Three and many more. On this episode of the podcast, the Hartnetts speak with host Dennis Scully about going all in on their own business, how digital printing has changed the industry, and why, no matter what the state of the economy, if the work is good, the demand will be there. This episode is sponsored by Daniel House Club https://www.danielhouse.club/boh LINKS Twenty2 https://www.twenty2.net Dennis Scully https://www.instagram.com/dennisscully Business of Home https://www.businessofhome.com
BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus https://www.instagram.com/frednicolaus joins host Dennis Scully https://www.instagram.com/dennisscully to go over the biggest news in the industry, including deep cuts at Wayfair, Red Sea shipping delays, and a look at why furniture quality seems to be getting worse. Later, BOH editor in chief Kaitlin Petersen https://www.instagram.com/knpetersen and market editor Caroline Biggs http://@carolinecameronb break down the highlights from Paris Déco Off and Maison&Objet. This episode is sponsored by Loloi https://www.loloirugs.com/account/register Paris Déco Off https://www.paris-deco-off.com/en/home-english/ Maison&Objet https://www.maison-objet.com/en/paris Business of Home https://businessofhome.com/
In 2016, Lily Froehlicher and her partners conceived of an e-commerce business that would bring the work of French designers and craftspeople to the wider world. The Invisible Collection was born, and quickly took off—the site has a fast-growing international clientele, with showrooms in London, New York and soon, Los Angeles. On this episode of the podcast, Froehlicher speaks with host Dennis Scully about the differences between French, British and American luxury, why The Invisible Collection doesn’t advertise on social media anymore, and how they’ve made the slow pace and perfectly imperfect nature of craft work for a high-speed modern audience. This episode is sponsored by Daniel House Club https://dashboard.simplecast.com/accounts/3ed13173-d92f-44f6-b8ce-d831e9672af7/shows/7a3106dd-e66b-4e68-9be2-0ac7b3125cc3/episodes/97494d3e-1722-422f-a282-c17b32e0ddec/www.danielhouse.club/boh Rosemary Hallgarten https://www.rosemaryhallgarten.com/ Dennis Scully https://www.instagram.com/dennisscully Business of Home https://www.businessofhome.com/
executive editor Fred Nicolaus https://www.instagram.com/frednicolaus joins host Dennis Scully https://www.instagram.com/dennisscully to go over the biggest news in the industry, including a new acquisition for Kravet, a B Corp boom, and why TikTok is obsessed with “bookshelf wealth.” Later, BOH managing editor Haley Chouinard brings back highlights from Heimtex, and’s new editor in chief Jill Cohen shares her plans for the brand. This episode is sponsored by Loloi Rugs https://www.loloirugs.com/account/register Jill Cohen Associates https://www.jillcohenassociates.com/ Luxe Interiors + Design https://luxesource.com/ Dennis Scully https://www.instagram.com/dennisscully/ Business of Home https://businessofhome.com/
For years, Rosemary Hallgarten juggled a busy career in advertising with creative pursuits on the side. Then in the 1990s, a commission for a designer kick-started a fledgling rug business, and she was off to the races. Over two decades, Hallgarten has built a brand around neutral colors and sumptuous textures, bringing shearling rugs and alpaca boucle to a growing fan base. On this episode of the podcast, she speaks with host Dennis Scully about why she held on to her day job for five years, the rise of knockoffs and the challenges of moving from the chaos of creativity to the order of a streamlined business. This episode is sponsored by Daniel House Club /www.danielhouse.club/boh Rosemary Hallgarten https://www.rosemaryhallgarten.com/ Dennis Scully /www.instagram.com/dennisscully Business of Home /www.businessofhome.com
executive editor Fred Nicolaus /www.instagram.com/frednicolaus joins host Dennis Scully to go over the biggest news in the industry, including change at the top https://businessofhome.com/articles/change-at-the-top-for-luxe for why starter homes are becoming forever homes, and a look at the latest industry comings and goings https://businessofhome.com/articles/bill-pittel-goes-to-galerie-arteriors-has-a-new-ceo-and-more. Later, the leadership team behind The Dump https://businessofhome.com/articles/the-furniture-liquidation-business-is-booming-just-ask-the-dump discusses their acquisition of the Mitchell Gold + Bob Williams inventory. The Dump /www.thedump.com Dennis Scully /www.instagram.com/dennisscully Business of Home /www.businessofhome.com
Started in 1976, for decades Surya was a modest rug manufacturer. But when Satya Tiwari—the son of the company’s founder—joined the business in the early 2000s, he began pushing it to grow, and over the years it has become a large-scale industry player, covering multiple categories and doing hundreds of millions in revenue. Last year Tiwari went on an acquisition spree, culminating in the purchase of the Mitchell Gold + Bob Williams brand. On this episode of the podcast, Tiwari chats with host Dennis Scully about his plans for Mitchell Gold + Bob Williams, why private equity isn’t a good fit for the home industry, and why the opportunity is greatest when times are tough. This episode is sponsored by Daniel House Club /www.danielhouseclub.com/boh SURYA https://www.surya.com/ Dennis Scully https://www.instagram.com/dennisscully/ Business of Home https://dashboard.simplecast.com/accounts/3ed13173-d92f-44f6-b8ce-d831e9672af7/shows/7a3106dd-e66b-4e68-9be2-0ac7b3125cc3/episodes/5d4c2a9c-d34c-48ec-97a4-3d8ee3084bb1/www.businessofhome.com
executive editor FRED NICOLAUS /www.instagram.com/frednicolaus joins host Dennis Scully /www.instagram.com/dennisscully to discuss the biggest news in the industry, including a controversial leaked memo from Wayfair’s CEO, the breakup of a successful design duo, and a look at what trend forecasters are saying about 2024. Later, ALEXA HAMPTON shares her new book https://alexahampton.com/shop/alexa_hampton_design_style_influence and her resolutions for 2024. This episode was sponsored by Loloi Rugs https://www.loloirugs.com/account/register Alexa Hampton http://www.alexahampton.com Design, Style & Influence https://alexahampton.com/shop/alexa_hampton_design_style_influence Dennis Scully https://www.instagram.com/dennisscully/ Business of Home https://businessofhome.com/
executive editor Fred Nicolaus https://dashboard.simplecast.com/accounts/3ed13173-d92f-44f6-b8ce-d831e9672af7/shows/7a3106dd-e66b-4e68-9be2-0ac7b3125cc3/episodes/4af99e75-c3e8-45c6-b820-1b879e035779/instagram.com/frednicolaus joins host Dennis Scully https://dashboard.simplecast.com/accounts/3ed13173-d92f-44f6-b8ce-d831e9672af7/shows/7a3106dd-e66b-4e68-9be2-0ac7b3125cc3/episodes/4af99e75-c3e8-45c6-b820-1b879e035779/instagram.com/dennisscully to discuss a big turnaround in interest rates, Australia’s ban on engineered stone, and a new study on Gen Z’s love of dupes. Later, BOH editor in chief Kaitlin Petersen https://www.instagram.com/knpetersen/ and retail columnist Warren Shoulberg https://warrensreport.com/ join the show to recap an eventful year. Dennis Scully https://www.instagram.com/dennisscully/ Business of Home https://businessofhome.com/
As a sales rep, Brooks Morrison kept encountering two problems. Small, independent textile brands were getting lost in massive multiline showrooms—and designers in smaller cities often had to drive hours to visit the nearest design center. In 2019, Morrison launched The Design Social, a traveling pop-up where the creative talents behind indie brands could showcase their work directly for designers. In four years, she’s brought the show all across the country, from Darien Connecticut to Newport Beach, California. On this episode of the podcast, Morrison speaks with host Dennis Scully about the power of personal connection in a saturated market, why the show is built around creatives, not sales reps, and how she searches the country for overlooked “pockets of gold.” This episode is sponsored by Loloi https://www.loloirugs.com/account/register and BDDW https://bddw.com/ THE DESIGN SOCIAL https://www.thedesignsocialpopup.com/ Dennis Scully https://www.instagram.com/dennisscully/ Business of Home https://dashboard.simplecast.com/accounts/3ed13173-d92f-44f6-b8ce-d831e9672af7/shows/7a3106dd-e66b-4e68-9be2-0ac7b3125cc3/episodes/5d4c2a9c-d34c-48ec-97a4-3d8ee3084bb1/www.businessofhome.com
executive editor Fred Nicolaus https://dashboard.simplecast.com/accounts/3ed13173-d92f-44f6-b8ce-d831e9672af7/shows/7a3106dd-e66b-4e68-9be2-0ac7b3125cc3/episodes/4af99e75-c3e8-45c6-b820-1b879e035779/instagram.com/frednicolaus joins host Dennis Scully https://dashboard.simplecast.com/accounts/3ed13173-d92f-44f6-b8ce-d831e9672af7/shows/7a3106dd-e66b-4e68-9be2-0ac7b3125cc3/episodes/4af99e75-c3e8-45c6-b820-1b879e035779/instagram.com/dennisscully to discuss the biggest news in the industry, including this year’s AD100, a brutal quarter for RH, and change at the top for Food52. Later, Chad Stark discusses why his company's latest moves around pricing transparency https://businessofhome.com/articles/what-stark-s-latest-move-says-about-the-state-of-pricing-transparency don't mean Stark Carpet is going all in on DTC. STARK CARPET https://starkcarpet.com/ ASHLEY STARK HOME https://ashleystarkhome.com/ Dennis Scully https://www.instagram.com/dennisscully/ Business of Home https://businessofhome.com/
The last time https://businessofhome.com/articles/ethan-allen-s-farooq-kathwari-on-staying-relevant-in-a-global-economy Ethan Allen CEO Farooq Kathwari was on the podcast, he told the incredible story of his journey from a boyhood in Kashmir and Pakistan to the top of one of the furniture industry’s most venerable companies. This time he sticks to the present day, discussing Ethan Allen’s post-pandemic challenges and opportunities. Kathwari tells host Dennis Scully why smaller is better for his company’s showrooms, the five things he asks all his managers to track, and why the worst mistake a business can make is try to be all things to all people. This episode is sponsored by Loloi https://www.loloirugs.com/account/register and BDDW https://bddw.com/ ETHAN ALLEN https://www.ethanallen.com/ Dennis Scully https://www.instagram.com/dennisscully/ Business of Home https://dashboard.simplecast.com/accounts/3ed13173-d92f-44f6-b8ce-d831e9672af7/shows/7a3106dd-e66b-4e68-9be2-0ac7b3125cc3/episodes/5d4c2a9c-d34c-48ec-97a4-3d8ee3084bb1/www.businessofhome.com