Nicole is joined by Chantal Fernandez and Lauren Sherman, authors of Selling Sexy: Victoria’s Secret and the Unraveling of an American Icon, a book that charts the rise and fall (and rise?) of the retail behemoth.

Listen to learn more about the company’s very taboo beginnings, feeling sexy versus feeling comfortable, and what the Victoria’s Secret fashion show, which will be returning to our television sets later this month, says about our collective memory.