We have a special holiday gift for you with a special bonus episode to close out the year. We worked with Jeff Wood from Talking Headways and The Overhead Wire -- https://theoverheadwire.com/ -- to trade episodes with each other. Jeff will be playing our interview with Randy Clarke that kicked off Season 7 and we have his interview with Dr. Karel Martens from March 2021 talking about the philosophy behind city planning.

This is something very different from our usual topics, and we hope you enjoy it.

Make sure you check out The Overhead Wire and Talking Headways wherever you get your podcasts.

Questions, comments? Email us at info@transitunplugged.com.

00:02 Introduction with Paul Comfort and Jeff Wood

01:01 About the Talking Headways Podcast

02:05 Introducing the Guest and Topic

03:19 How to Access the Talking Headways Podcast

03:41 Interview with Karel Martens with Jeff Wood of the Overhead Wire

03:47 Interview with Karel Martens

13:10 Exploring Theories of Justice in Transport

27:59 Understanding the Concept of Fair Distribution

28:33 Exploring the Idea of Insurance Schemes in Resource Distribution

29:46 Applying the Veil of Ignorance to Transport System Design

31:03 The Importance of Accessibility in Transport Systems

37:21 The Role of Government in Providing Sufficient Accessibility

49:46 Re-evaluating the Use of Cost-Benefit Analysis in Transport Planning

56:16 Thank you for listening and what's coming in January