Today, we had the pleasure of speaking with Charlie Peacock and Andi Ashworth, authors of the new book, "Why Everything That Doesn't Matter Matters So Much, The Way of Love in a World of Hurt."

In this episode, Charlie and Andi share their experiences discovering their types and their personal reflections on how the Enneagram has contributed to them understanding themselves better.

From the complexities of being a Four to the challenges of living with chronic pain as a Seven, this conversation is rich with insights, vulnerability, and wisdom as we explore themes of empathy, creativity, grief, and the pursuit of meaning in life.

If you want to gain a deeper understanding of the Enneagram, explore the complexities of the human personality, and discover how to navigate life's challenges with grace and resilience, this episode is a must-listen.

Join us on this enlightening and heartfelt conversation with Charlie and Andi.