Australians will vote on October 14, too: on creating a body called the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice. What would the creation of this body mean and how is the debate shaping up? Plus: how interested are Australians in New Zealand politics now Jacinda Ardern has left the scene? 

This is an excerpt from our day-long Election 2023 Megapod, recorded on September 20. Watch the full megapod livestream here.

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