In this episode, I’m speaking with Robert Naviaux, MD, Ph.D., the revolutionary mind behind the Cell Danger Response, a landmark contribution to the study of chronic fatigue and other long-term illnesses.

In this podcast, Dr. Naviaux and I discuss:

• The true underlying driver of chronic illness, from myalgic encephalomyelitis to Lyme disease to depression (it’s not what you think!)

• The fascinating two-sided physiology that keeps you fit and healthy but can also make you incredibly ill

• 2 pathways of disease that no one is discussing and how to ensure your body is resolving dysfunction instead of keeping you sick

• A new approach to medicine that will forever change the way we (successfully!) address chronic disease…and steps you can take today