The Ringer's Bill Simmons is joined by Chuck Klosterman to discuss Victor Wembanyama speculations, international basketball, and cracks in the American youth basketball structure (1:22), before they talk about the spike in the popularity of women's college basketball, different eras of college sports, PEDs, and more (24:52). Then they discuss the cultural colossus that is Taylor Swift (47:37) before finally debating what the Patriots should do with the third pick in the NFL draft and talking about Apple TV's 'Dynasty' documentary (1:09:04).

Host: Bill Simmons
Guest: Chuck Klosterman
Producer: Kyle Crichton



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