Liquid Assets: A Beverage Industry Podcast

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Rabobank’s global beverage team offers insights, analysis, and a bit of entertainment for your morning commute. Liquid Assets will help you tackle the latest trends, introduce you to industry leaders, and prepare you for what’s next in the beverage world.

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99 episodes

The future of online alcohol marketplaces, featuring Breakthru Beverage Group

At this year’s Access LIVE conference in Las Vegas, we sat down with Breakthru Beverage Group’s Head of Digital and E-commerce Mike Boswell for an impromptu conversation on alcohol marketplaces. We explore the relevance and value of marketplaces at different levels of the value chain, discussing Drizly on the consumer-facing side and Provi for a business-to-business perspective.  For more on this topic, be sure to read our latest report: .   Note: The content and opinions presented within this podcast are not intended as investment advice, and the opinions rendered are that of the individuals and not Rabobank or its affiliates and should not be considered a solicitation or offer to sell or provide services.

46m
Mar 28
Neo-prohibitionism, Ozempic, and the end of the tequila boom?

Is neo-prohibitionism a threat to the alcohol business? Will GLP-1 agonists decrease alcohol sales? Are soft drinks companies losing interest in their effort to develop alcohol brands? To debate these and other controversial topics, the RaboResearch Beverage team plays one of our favorite games: Buy, Sell, Hold!       Note: The content and opinions presented within this podcast are not intended as investment advice, and the opinions rendered are that of the individuals and not Rabobank or its affiliates and should not be considered a solicitation or offer to sell or provide services. 

53m
Mar 07
Southern Glazer’s talks industry trends, inventory, and digitalization

As the largest wine and spirits distributor in North America, Southern Glazer’s Wine & Spirits has a unique perspective on the US alcohol market. Senior leaders David Chaplin (Chief Growth Officer), John Wittig (Chief Commercial Officer), and Alan Wizeman (Chief Digital Officer) share their views on the health of the US alcohol market, consumer trends, distributor inventories, and the fast evolving world of business-to-business e-commerce.     Note: The content and opinions presented within this podcast are not intended as investment advice, and the opinions rendered are that of the individuals and not Rabobank or its affiliates and should not be considered a solicitation or offer to sell or provide services. 

1h 12m
Feb 02
2024 economic outlook

Economic power due Jane Foley and Christian Lawrence return to discuss the outlook for a recession, interest rates, inflation, and consumer spending and how these economic trends could impact food and beverage companies as we enter the new year.   Rabobank clients can sign up for our research via this link: research.rabobank.com. Note: The content and opinions presented within this podcast are not intended as investment advice, and the opinions rendered are that of the individuals and not Rabobank or its affiliates and should not be considered a solicitation or offer to sell or provide services. 

42m
Jan 09
Soft drinks boom, spirits hungover, and consumers reach an inflection point

For the first time in more than a year, the Liquid Assets team get to do a recording in the same room. They take turns picking news stories that speak to wider trends impacting the beverages industry. Research.Rabobank.com  

57m
Dec 13, 2023
The history of bourbon, as told by Heaven Hill

Bourbon has been booming for years, but that growth was preceded by a half century of hardship, hard work, and good luck that laid the groundwork for the soaring category we see today. Heaven Hill’s Max Shapira and Kate Latts lived through the good times and the bad. We tap that experience to understand the winding path that has led American whiskey to its current zenith and what more recent trends could mean for the future of this “distinctively” American spirit. Rabobank clients can sign up for our research via this link: Research.Rabobank.com Note: The content and opinions presented within this podcast are not intended as investment advice, and the opinions rendered are that of the individuals and not Rabobank or its affiliates and should not be considered a solicitation or offer to sell or provide services.

1h 6m
Nov 20, 2023
Sports marketing 101

David Broughton, a journalist and director of research for Sports Business Journal, discusses the history of sports advertising, how it is evolving, and what recent changes to the industry mean for building brands on the back of humanity’s most beloved pastimes. Rabobank clients can sign up for our research via this link: Research.Rabobank.com

48m
Oct 31, 2023
What Kind of M&A Deals Will We See in 2024?

With one of our favorite guests, consumer foods specialist Maria Castroviejo, and one of our favorite formats (a draft!), we debate the strategies that will drive beverage M&A deals over the next 12 to 18 months.     Rabobank clients can read our report by logging in to our website. 

1h 4m
Sep 22, 2023
The State of the US Craft Industry

Margie Lehrman, CEO of the American Craft Spirits Association, and Bart Watson, Chief Economist for the Brewers Association, team up to discuss the winds of change blowing through the craft industry. Not long ago, the seas of craft beer and spirits were all smooth sailing as operators expanded into new, undiscovered territory. As costs rise, consumers shrug, and investors start to feel uneasy, many craft operators have been forced to batten down the hatches and rethink their long-term strategy, lest they should be blown off course. 

1h 2m
Aug 22, 2023
Consumer Demand – Going Beyond the Headline Data

Liquid Assets hosts Stephen Rannekleiv and Jim Watson sit down with Rabobank economists Christian Lawrence and Jane Foley to dig beneath the headline consumer data and provide a clearer view on where demand (and the economy) is heading in the second half of 2023.

46m
Jul 27, 2023
A Liquid Assets Celebration

Steve and Jim invite Liquid Assets listeners to join them in congratulating Bourcard for becoming a father… on Father’s Day. Congrats Buki!!!

1m
Jun 20, 2023
Can Changes to Ingredients Help Fight Inflation? Kerry on Innovation vs. Reformulation

There are two major ways that beverage companies are changing their ingredients to fight inflation. Some brands are looking to cut costs by replacing their more expensive ingredients with cheaper ones. Others brands are developing new products or modifying existing products to increase revenues by adding more functional ingredients or making healthier versions of those products. We are joined by John Kelly and Paul Villis from the Kerry Group. They help us better understand what drives these decisions and share their experiences from helping brands manage this process.

45m
Jun 15, 2023
How Is a New Brand Supposed to Find Distribution in the US?

As the big get bigger, many new brands and foreign brands are wondering how to get attention in the massive and complicated US distribution landscape? Sara Harmelin, Vice President – Digital & Innovation at Allied Beverage Group, and Michael Bilello, Executive Vice President – Strategic Communications & Marketing at WSWA, are both part of Access Craft, a program from WSWA to help smaller and new-to-market brands navigate the three-tier system and get the most of out their distributors. They share some success stories, best practices, and sage advice on finding success in the US market. 

32m
Jun 01, 2023
Breakthru’s Danny Wirtz on Digital, Alternative Routes-to-market, and How Brands Can Get the Most out of Distributors

We sit down with Danny Wirtz, vice chairman and a fourth-generation family leader at Breakthru Beverage Group, to discusses M&A, the digitalization of distribution, and how brands can work better with distributors in this time of uncertainty. Breakthru has a larger beer business than most other wine and spirits distributors, giving Danny unique insights into why some wine and spirits brands are choosing to work with beer wholesalers. 

33m
May 04, 2023
WSWA’s Tom Cole and Francis Creighton on Distribution Trends, Marijuana Legalization, and More

Tom Cole (Chairman) and Francis Creighton (President and CEO) help lead Wine & Spirits Wholesalers of America (WSWA). We sat down with Tom and Francis at WSWA’s annual conference, Access LIVE, to kick off our series on US distribution. They share their views on industry trends, competition, and their legislative agenda for the year ahead.

36m
Apr 26, 2023
How Are Beverages Performing Around the Globe?

To show off the global reach of the RaboResearch Beverages team, Steve and Bourcard sit down with analysts across four different continents, collecting stories about the economy and how it is affecting beverage brands around the world.  Episode breakdown: 1:23 - Jim Watson on the latest US beverage pricing data and why some brands are outperforming the competition.  18:21 - Andrés Padilla & Guilherme Morya on the Brazilian economy and how it is impacting the local coffee market. 31:31 - Sudip Sinha on how beverage brands are navigating the economy in markets across Asia. 40:53 - Francois Sonneville on the European economy and the on-premise in the UK. 48:57 -  Maria Castroviejo & Bourcard Nesin on the outlook for e-commerce sales in Europe and the US. This podcast was based on the latest edition of the Beverage Market Buzz: Click here to read the report.  

1h 12m
Apr 07, 2023
Will Beer Be More Profitable in 2023?

Against all odds, most big brewers were able to grow their business and expand margins in 2022. Can they do it again in 2023, or will lagging cost pressures and backlash from recent price increases come back to bite them? The authors of Rabobank’s latest Beer Quarterly report share how brewers are working to control costs, boost revenues, and present their outlook on big-brewer balance sheets for the year ahead. Click here to read Rabobank’s latest Beer Quarterly report: “Have Cost Increases Finally Stopped?”

41m
Mar 09, 2023
What Do Young People Want? Feat. Beatbox Beverages

At Liquid Assets, we take pride in avoiding “how-I-built-this” stories. But once in a while, a brand comes along whose path to success is so unique, so unexpected, that the best and most insightful question you can ask is: “How?” Beatbox Beverages is one of those companies. Cofounders Aimy Steadman (COO) and Brad Shultz (CMO) share the origins of the brand, how they stay connected to young 21+ consumers, how they leverage beer distributors to get more attention and find the right accounts, and why they talk sustainability to the trade and not consumers.

54m
Feb 13, 2023
The 2023 Economic Outlook

Economist power duo Jane Foley and Christian Lawrence return to discuss the most important economic trends heading into the new year and what a potential recession, persistent inflation, labor shortages, and a cost-of-living crisis for lower-income consumers could mean for the beverage industry. 

54m
Jan 24, 2023
Second Annual Quiz-of-the-Year

In a show packed with passionate debate, fierce competition, and even mutiny, journalist Kate Bernot (Good Beer Hunting, Craft Beer & Brewing magazine) and Brewbound Managing Editor Jess Infante help us process the most important stories from 2022. Kate and Jess also do a bit of a takeover, hosting the second annual Liquid Assets Quiz-of-the-Year. Happy holidays, everyone! Thanks for tuning in and supporting yet another year of the show!

1h 8m
Dec 21, 2022
Crypto-Death, Innovation, and Marijuana Burnouts

Using recent industry headlines for inspiration, we break down three big questions on the minds of many beverage executives: __ __

50m
Nov 30, 2022
Get Ready for an Energy Crisis!

An energy crisis caused by the Russian invasion of Ukraine is devastating the European economy. There is a global shortage of diesel, the go-to fuel source for the trains, trucks, and ships that support economic activity around the world. And greenhouse gas emissions are rising as households, governments, and businesses scramble for affordable, yet dirtier, sources of energy. Rabobank’s energy strategist Joe DeLaura and head of FX strategy Jane Foley join us to explain how we arrived at this crisis and why it might take a decade to address the underlying causes.

40m
Nov 02, 2022
How AB InBev’s E-commerce Team Wants To Bring Sales and Marketing Teams Together

E-commerce and digital marketing are blurring the lines between sales and marketing, but sales and marketing teams don’t always get along. Carolyn Brown, Head of Commerce Marketing at AB InBev, and Rebecca Christiansen, AB InBev’s Director of eCommerce, see this as an opportunity to help their sales and marketing teams better understand each other and increase collaboration, setting up the world’s largest brewer for success in the digital age.

37m
Oct 04, 2022
From Clipboards to The Cloud: The Digital Revolution Comes to Supply Chains, feat. Amazon

While many CPG companies are still keeping records on clipboards, new technologies like cloud computing, connected factories, and AI are helping more innovative firms capture and analyze the data they need to navigate disruption, reduce waste, optimize operations, and ultimately improve their margins. Alongside two guests from Amazon Web Services, Justin Honaman and Michael Connor, we explore how CPG companies are taking advantage of these new technologies and the digital revolution that is reshaping supply chains around the world. 

58m
Sep 14, 2022
AB InBev and Coca Cola Want to Build a Playground for Sustainable Innovation With the 100+ Accelerator

The 100+ Accelerator is a partnership between AB InBev, The Coca-Cola Company, Unilever, and Colgate-Palmolive that allows sustainability-focused startups to pilot their innovations within the supply chains of these four multinational CPG companies. In an unmissable conversation, Molun Zhang of The Coca-Cola Company and Carolina García Arbeláez of AB InBev discuss their companies’ biggest sustainability challenges and how this new collaborative approach, the 100+ Accelerator, is helping to solve them.  

58m
Aug 24, 2022
A Recession Seems Inevitable – How Bad Could It Be?

As the world braces for recession, Rabobank’s world-class economists Jane Foley and Christian Lawrence join the Liquid Assets team to dissect the most recent economic news and share what indicators they’ll be watching in the months ahead.   Check out our 2022 economics preview from January: The Most Important Trends of 2022.   Rabobank clients can sign up for our research via this link: Research.Rabobank.com

57m
Jul 27, 2022
Inflation Is Changing Beverage Packaging

Could inflation force beverage companies to rethink their packaging choices? And could those changes have a positive impact on climate change? With help from Packaging and Supply Chains Analyst Xinnan Li, we explore what is driving up costs in packaging and some less disruptive changes companies can make to address those problems in the near term. Our next episode will be dedicated to structural changes that may be needed to address packaging costs, waste, and the climate crisis.   Links to our article series on costs and packaging: Part 1 – Inflation's Impact on Beverage Supply Chain and Packaging Decisions Part 2 – Rethinking Materials, Because It’s Not Just What’s Inside That Counts Part 3 – Location, Location, Location Part 4 – Improving Recycling To Bring Every Bottle Back Part 5 – Will Inflation Fuel the Rebirth of Reusable Packaging?

41m
Jun 29, 2022
Black Girl Magic & The Art of Mass Appeal

McBride Sisters is a black-owned brand that explicitly – though not exclusively - markets to black women. As a consequence, the media, retailers and distributors, often assume your brand must only appeal to black women or worse, that it might actively push away other consumer groups. With help from Co-founder and CEO, Andrea McBride, we learn more about one of the fastest growing wine brands in the US and summarily destroy the idea that marketing to an underserved consumer group could undermine your relationship with others.  

56m
Jun 09, 2022
Buy, Sell, or Hold: 15 Hot Takes in 45 Minutes

In a format designed to maximize controversy, the Liquid Assets team analyzes some of the industry’s most urgent and contentious opinions and predictions. Expect plenty of rapid-fire debates as they answer questions like "Is hard seltzer dead?" "In two years, will anyone be talking about NFTs?" and "Will the US ever legalize marijuana?"     Rabobank clients can sign up for our research via this link: Research.Rabobank.com

52m
May 18, 2022
How To Take Your E-commerce Marketing to the Next Level, featuring Constellation Brands

* Constellation Brands’ Vice President of E-commerce, Wayne Duan, returns alongside Sara Master, Constellation Brands’ Senior Director of E-commerce Marketing & Digital Shelf, to discuss how alcohol brands can take their e-commerce marketing to the next level. In this episode, we discuss: __ __ * To access Rabobank’s 2022 Alcohol E-commerce Playbook, click here. Rabobank clients can sign up for our research via this link: Research.Rabobank.com

53m
Apr 26, 2022