Podcast: PrOTect It All
Episode: Harnessing AI in Cybersecurity: Revolutionizing OT Protection
Pub date: 2024-02-20

Hosted by: Aaron Crow

Guest: Clint Bodungen

Clint Bodungen is a globally recognized cybersecurity professional and thought leader with 25+ years of experience (focusing primarily on industrial cybersecurity, red teaming, and risk assessment). He is the author of two books, "Hacking Exposed: Industrial Control Systems" and “ChatGPT for Cybersecurity Cookbook. Clint is a United States Air Force veteran and has worked for notable cybersecurity firms like Symantec, Booz Allen Hamilton, and Kaspersky Lab, and is currently the co-founder and CEO of a cybersecurity training startup, ThreatGEN. Renowned for his creative approach to cybersecurity education and training, he has been at the forefront of integrating gamification and AI applications into cybersecurity training, creating his flagship product, “ThreatGEN® Red vs. Blue”, the world's first online multiplayer computer designed to teach real-world cybersecurity. His latest innovation is AutoTableTop, which uses the latest generative AI technology to automate, simplify, and revolution IR tabletop exercises. As AI technology continues to evolve, so too does his pursuit to help revolutionize the cybersecurity industry using generative AI and large language models (LLM).

Summary

In this conversation, Clint and Aaron discuss the value of tabletop exercises in cybersecurity and the development of auto tabletop, an AI-based tool for facilitating incident response tabletop exercises. They highlight the limitations of traditional tabletops and the benefits of using AI to enhance engagement and flexibility. They address concerns about AI in cybersecurity, such as data privacy and security, and emphasize the use of local language models to mitigate risks. They also discuss the future of AI in the industry and the workforce, emphasizing the importance of learning generative AI and prompt engineering for future job prospects. In this conversation, Clint discusses the automation of tasks using AI and the benefits of using AI as a tool to enhance human creativity. He also explores the future of AI and its potential for accelerating technological advancement. Clint acknowledges the concerns about the potential misuse of AI but emphasizes the importance of using it for good. He highlights the role of AI in reducing barriers to innovation and its significance in cybersecurity. Overall, the conversation highlights the transformative power of AI and its impact on various industries.

 

Takeaways

• Tabletop exercises are important for testing incident response plans and should be conducted regularly for maximum effectiveness.


• AI-based tabletop exercises, such as auto tabletop, offer increased engagement and flexibility compared to traditional tabletops.


• Concerns about data privacy and security can be addressed by using local language models and fine-tuning models for specific tasks.


• AI has the potential to enhance productivity and efficiency in the industry, but proper understanding and implementation are crucial.


• Learning generative AI and prompt engineering can increase job prospects in the future. AI can automate menial tasks, allowing humans to focus on more valuable work.


• AI has the potential to enhance human creativity and accelerate technological advancement.


• The responsible use of AI is crucial to prevent misuse and ensure positive outcomes.


• AI can reduce barriers to innovation and empower individuals to bring their ideas to life.

Chapters

 

00:00 Introduction and Background

02:13 The Value of Tabletop Exercises

03:01 The Development of Auto Tabletop

04:27 The Importance of Regular Tabletop Exercises

05:53 Limitations of Traditional Tabletops

07:41 The Benefits of AI-based Tabletops

09:45 Increased Engagement and Flexibility

11:36 Expanding the Reach of Tabletop Exercises

14:43 Addressing Concerns about AI in Cybersecurity

19:32 Using Local Language Models for Enhanced Security

25:15 Misconceptions and Pitfalls of AI in the Industry

30:37 Preparing for the Adoption of AI in OT

37:52 Overcoming Fear of the Unknown 

40:38 The Future of AI in Industry and Workforce

46:30 Automating Tasks with AI

48:16 The Future of AI

49:18 Enhancing Human Creativity

52:08 Accelerating Technological Advancement

53:02 The Potential for Good and Bad

55:23 Reducing Barriers to Innovation

57:16 Using AI for Cybersecurity

57:43 The Importance of AI in OT and Cybersecurity

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