In case you didn't know, Rosemary had a baby – and things, as they so often tend not to, didn't go to plan.

We sit down to discuss the birth of Atlas Eddie, Beatrice's role on the day, Brandin's unexpected and uncharacteristic lack of chill and the shock of the C-section.

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Not Without My Sister is presented by sisters Beatrice Mac Cabe and Rosemary Mac Cabe, in Fort Wayne, Indiana. This episode was edited by Liam Geraghty. Sound and original music by Don Kirkland. Original illustration by Lindsay Neilson.