The Pandemic forced the legal profession to innovate and modernize its operations. With minds now open to change, this is the perfect time to implement much needed adjustments to help close the access-to-justice gap. This episode features host Patrick Palace (past Washington State Bar Association President) interviewing Chief Justice Bridget Mary McCormack from the Michigan Supreme Court. Together they discuss how the legal profession is not meeting the needs of the public, current drivers for change, and programs out there delivering results.