Jon Finer, President Joe Biden’s principal deputy national security
adviser, opens up to Playbook co-author and Deep Dive host Ryan Lizza
about how the administration is approaching some of the thorniest
problems related to the war in Israel, including: striking the right
balance between supporting Israel and expressing concerns about an
extreme response; Biden’s warnings to Iran; and whether America should
now consider itself at war with Hamas.

Ryan Lizza is a Playbook co-author for POLITICO.
Jon Finer is the White House deputy national security adviser.
Kara Tabor is a producer for POLITICO audio. 
Alex Keeney is a senior producer for POLITICO audio.