Join me as Mike Barnes and I discuss how to not get burned!  We are going to discuss some TRUE stories about how we have been back doored!  Learn the tricks we use on our bid process to keep the wrong people from passing your hard work out to competition.  Might stir up some controversy with this episode, but this is what https://thehvacgrapevine.buzzsprout.com/ is all about, taking the conversation to an uncomfortable level or truthfulness.