Kathryn interviews Author Frank Forencich.In the popular imagination, activism is usually seen as an inconvenient, difficult, and stressful enterprise. But what if we’re wrong about all of that? Could activism actually make the human animal stronger? As the co-creator of an innovation organization Activism Is Medicine, Frank Forencich emphasizes the transformative power of activism as a remedy for building resilience, purpose, and overall health. He seeks to redefine activism not as a burden but as a gift that individuals can embrace for personal growth and positive societal change. He has been a featured speaker at prestigious events, including the Ancestral Health Symposium, Google, the Dr. Robert D. Conn Heart Conference, the Welsh Pain Society, and the Stanford University Institute of Design.Kathryn also interviews Author Susan Partovi MD.Dr. Susan Partovi first experienced poverty medicine volunteering at a dump site in Tijuana during high school. There, she recognized the need for all people to have access to quality medical care. Over the years, she has worked in various facilities around Los Angeles County, incorporating her renegade method of going the extra mile for her patients. As Medical Director of Homeless Health Care Los Angeles, she works to provide a safety net of care for the underserved Skid Row community. She started documenting her patients’ stories so that others could hear their voices. Along the way, she began to understand how her personal ethics evolved—from a challenging childhood and complicated relationships with her parents, through professional hurdles—often, she had to push against a system that doesn’t always put the patient first. She was dubbed the “Renegade MD” by Los Angeles Magazine for her unconventional tactics to earn the trust of her patients.