Gene and cohost Tim Swartz present Mark Gober, who focuses his discussion on what he regards as the true nature consciousness, the paranormal and exploring the possible implications of this new way of thinking. He is the author of “An End to Upside Down Thinking” (2018), which was awarded the IPPY award for best science book of 2019. He is also the author of “An End to Upside Down Living” (2020), “An End to Upside Down Liberty” (2021), and “An End to Upside Down Contact — UFOs, Aliens, and Spirits—and Why Their Ongoing Interaction with Human Civilization Matters” (2022); and is the host of the podcast Where Is My Mind? (2019). Additionally, Gober serves on the board of the Institute of Noetic Sciences and the School of Wholeness and Enlightenment. Previously, He was a partner at Sherpa Technology Group in Silicon Valley and worked as an investment banking analyst with UBS in New York.