Mixed Mental Arts

Bryan Callen, Hunter Maats

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As kids, we're like little sponges blindly copying culture from the people around us. The cultures into which we were all born evolved to fit very old agricultural environments. Each contains timeless wisdom about human affairs but none of them is ideally suited to navigating the ever-changing environment in which we find ourselves.

The goal of Mixed Mental Arts is to steal the best cultural software from everywhere and apply the core principle of Bruce Lee's Jeet Kune Do "Adapt what is useful, reject what is useless, and add what is specifically your own." Welcome to the dojo! We're excited to learn from you.

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368 episodes

Ep 365 - Caroline Criado Perez

Bryan Callen and today's guest, Caroline Criado-Perez, have very different feeeeeeelings about the word feminism. For Bryan, feminism is a bit of a dirty word which he associates with well-meaning but misguided Social Justice Warriors on a crusade to remake the world in denial of the facts. For Caroline, feminism is a noble cause that aims to make the world fair and equal for all regardless of gender. And yet, in spite of their feelings about the word feminism, the case that Caroline makes in her latest book "Invisible Women: Data Bias in a World Designed for Men" is so compelling that Bryan and Caroline found themselves agreeing on the premise of her book. From medicine to the design of smartphones to bathroom allocation to the temperature of office spaces, the world is based on the assumption that an ordinary human is male. The result is that women die unnecessarily of heart attacks and car crashes. They wait longer in line for bathrooms. They are constantly cold in offices while men find the temperature perfectly comfortable. Many men wonder why the women in their lives are always cold, as if it is some defect of their body's ability to regulate its internal environment. Rather than a failure of homeostasis among 50% of the population, women and men simply have different mean body temperatures and men have simply been setting the thermostats for their own comfort without consulting women or considering that they might have different needs. In every way and in every field of life, the world was designed by men and for men and women have suffered as a result. There's a saying in Washington D.C. that if you're not at the table, then you're on the menu. In other words, if you're not there helping make the decisions, then you're going to get eaten alive. For most of recorded history, the people calling the shots and making the design decisions have been men and women have been on the menu. Bryan, Caroline and Hunter all want to live in a world based on fair play. So, why would we spend our time arguing about our feeeeeeelings about the word feminism when we can devote our time and energy to solving the problem? With Caroline's book, we not only have a persuasive case. We have a recipe for action for how we can make a world that works better for all of us. Fair play isn't just about marches, elections and new legislation. It's also about making little decisions like where we set the thermostat into discussions.

1h 13m
Jan 15, 2020
Ep 364 - Mark Manson

When Mark Manson wrote "The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck," he couldn't have anticipated what a tremendous success it would be or that with that success there would be new challenges. Namely, now what? Mark had everything he'd ever wanted and had to face the pressure of a second act. Could he repeat that success? And what if nobody liked his second book? Fortunately, as an F-bomb philosopher, Mark was able to channel the power of his own advice and the life-changing perspective that comes from harnessing the English language's most potent four-letter word. In this interview, we discuss Mark's latest book "Everything is F*cked." To Mixed Mental Artists, many of the themes in the book will be familiar, notably the idea that everything is a religion. Given this, we need tools for managing and challenging our own belief systems and Mark's books nicely synthesize a diverse range of material in a fun, compelling package. In short, it's mixing the mental arts at its very best.

49m
Dec 15, 2019
Ep 363 - Cailin O'Connor

In an age of fake news and alternative facts, Cailin O'Connor's "The Misinformation Age: How False Beliefs Spread" could not be better timed. With fantastic historical examples and the latest science, this episode forces everyone to reflect on how we form our beliefs and how we can all play our role in creating a healthier information space. Cailin O'Connor is an Associate Professor of Logic and Philosophy of Science and a member of the Institute for Mathematical Behavioral Science at the University of California, Irvine.

1h 19m
Nov 15, 2019
Ep 362 - Jonathan Haidt

Although Bryan and Hunter talk about Jon Haidt all the time, this is actually only Jon's second appearance on the podcast. It was well worth the wait. Having read Jon's books many times and interviewed many of his peers, this podcast was a fantastic opportunity to get stuck in and re-examine the world through the lens of both ancient wisdom and modern science.

1h 1m
Oct 15, 2019
Hiatus is Over!

While Bryan has been busy filming his new spinoff Schooled, Hunter has been working hard to figure out how to take Mixed Mental Arts to the next level. We've had so much fun sharing the best ideas we've found in books. We can't wait to share them with an even wider audience. But in the meantime, we will be releasing new episodes every so often.

58s
Oct 15, 2019
Ep 358 - Reporting on Palestine: Wajahat Ali

Stay tuned until the end for some information on the re-renaming of the show to the Bryan Callen Show.

1h 23m
Jul 30, 2018
Ep 356 - A Better Way To Help: Dambisa Moyo

Dambisa Moyo is from Zambia. She's studied the effect of foreign aid on the economies of developing nations. She finds it lacking in many respects. Her new book is  You can go to mixedmentalarts.online and click on our amazon link to get a hold of Dambisa Moyo's new book, and we'll get a cut of the money. Contribute to us on Patreon for early podcasts releases and other promises!

1h 3m
Jun 24, 2018
Ep 355 - Learning Through Adversity: Howard Bloom

Howard Bloom developed chronic fatigue syndrome in 1988. That didn't stop him from writing a bunch of books. His most recent book is which is a memoir. 

1h 58m
Jun 18, 2018
Ep 354 - Talking Creativity and Corgis with Allen Gannett

Allen Gannett is the author of and he helps debunk genius myths. That's why Hunter likes him. That's why Bryan likes him. We hope you like him too. Also, Allen loves corgis. Be sure to go to https://mixedmentalarts.online/, support us on Patreon, use our Amazon affiliate, and follow us on social media!

46m
Jun 11, 2018
Ep 353 - A New Song and Dance: Ken Gordon and Adam Hansen

Adam Hansen and Ken Gordon are innovation guys. They also like to sing songs and enjoy the finer things in life. Their beards make the world a better place.

1h 24m
Jun 04, 2018
Ep 352 - Real Science, Bro: Dr. Layne Norton

Layne Norton is an expert in nutrition. He's also an elite powerlifter and a professional body builder. In the continuing journey of sorting the wheat from the chaff, Bryan and Hunter learn about how to eat for performance. 

1h 31m
May 28, 2018
Ep 351 - Found in Translation: Magdalena Edwards

Magdalena Edwards is Bryan Callen's neighbor. She's also a translator.  

1h 5m
May 21, 2018
Ep 350 - Modern Maori: Te Miri Rangi

Te Miri Rangi is a Maori from New Zealand who instituted a program known as Whakapapa Fridays as an outreach to young people to instill a connection with their roots. Be sure to go to https://mixedmentalarts.online/, support us on Patreon, use our Amazon affiliate, and follow us on social media!  

47m
May 18, 2018
Ep 349 - The Knowledge Frontier: Cesar Hidalgo

Cesar Hidalgo is the directer of the Collective Learning Group at the MIT media lab,. His book  combines physics and economics to give a new take on economic growth in the 21st century. Be sure to go to https://mixedmentalarts.online/, support us on Patreon, use our Amazon affiliate, and follow us on social media!

1h 6m
May 14, 2018
Ep 348 - Con Body: Coss Marte

Coss Marte did 4 years in state prison for drug trafficking. While in prison, he became interested in physical training. Now he runs a fitness studio in New York where he hires former inmates and trains people on how to improve their fitness. He's literally turning lives around.  

36m
May 09, 2018
Idea Quickie 8: Way Back with Big Mike (Repost)

From June, 2014 Bryan and Big Mike talked about everything from the History of Western Philosophy, to capital punishment in Saudi Arabia. Be sure to follow us on social media and check out our Patreon!

1h 2m
May 09, 2018
Ep 346 - Getting to the Root of the Problem: Lawrence Lessig

Lawrence Lessig is a law professor at Harvard, and a friend of the podcast. He ran for the Democratic party nomination in the 2016 presidential election, and was boxed out because he wasn't playing the money game required to compete for elections in the United States. That money problem is the key issue he tackles in his book . Bryan and Hunter get fired up when talking to Lawrence, and this was no exception. Be sure to go to https://mixedmentalarts.online/, support us on Patreon, use our Amazon affiliate, and follow us on social media!

42m
May 07, 2018
Ep 345 - Eat the World: Bryan Edward Hill

Bryan Edward Hill is an entertainment industry consultant, author, screenwriter, musician, graphic novelist, and graphic designer. Bryan and Hunter tease out some of his writing skills and how this all connects to psychology, culture, morality, and the monsters within. Honorable Mention to Drake.  

1h 34m
May 04, 2018
Ep 344 - Ride Hard: Kyle Thiermann

Kyle Thiermann, born 1990, is a professional surfer, podcaster, and filmmaker from Santa Cruz, CA. His podcast is The Kyle Thiermann Show. In this podcast, Bryan and Hunter learn about conservation and oceanography, as well as surfer culture. Don’t forget to go to https://mixedmentalarts.online https://mixedmentalarts.online for all the updates of what we’re doing! Social media, too! Give us money on Patreon so Bryan Callen can get a focus group for podcast names, or something like that, and use our Amazon affiliate links!

59m
Apr 30, 2018
Ep 343 - Own It: Aubrey Marcus

Aubrey Marcus is the purveyor of  He wrote a new book, In this interview, Bryan and Hunter delve deep into the concept of human optimization and continue the love fest that accompanies Aubrey, because everyone loves him. Be sure to go to https://mixedmentalarts.online/, support us on Patreon, use our Amazon affiliate, and follow us on social media!

1h 1m
Apr 27, 2018
Ep 342 - Balancing Wealth: Mark Blyth

Mark Blyth is a friend of the podcast and an economist at Brown University. Of note in this episode: a college professor pays a marginal tax rate higher than corporations. What matters is paying fair shares, so people like Bryan Callen don't have to pay extra.  Be sure to go to https://mixedmentalarts.online/, support us on Patreon, use our Amazon affiliate, and follow us on social media!

1h 6m
Apr 23, 2018
Ep 341 - Negotiate: Former FBI Hostage Negotiator Gary Noesner

Gary Noesner was a hostage negotiator. He was at Waco. His stories are great. In this episode of Mixed Mental Arts, Gary breaks down the psychology of hostage negotiation and interrogation. His book is  Be sure to go to https://mixedmentalarts.online/, support us on Patreon, use our Amazon affiliate, and follow us on social media!

58m
Apr 20, 2018
Idea Quickie 7: Know Yourself, Train Yourself (Repost)

In this episode, Bryan and Hunter talk about Descartes Error and The Happiness Hypothesis. Humans are bound by their cognitive biases, their emotions, which color their reason. Knowing this aspect of human cognition is critical to better approaching life. From October, 2016. Be sure to go to https://mixedmentalarts.online/, support us on Patreon, use our Amazon affiliate, and follow us on social media! https://www.patreon.com/mixedmentalarts

1h 6m
Apr 18, 2018
Ep 339 - Write With Your Body: Ed Solomon and Alex Kurtzman

Ed Solomon is a friend of the show and the writer behind and He brought along Alex Kurtzman, co-writer of and Bryan Callen shares his desire to be a great writer, and gets lessons. Hunter Maats giggles and adds the glue to stick the threads of narrative together. Don’t forget to go to https://mixedmentalarts.online https://mixedmentalarts.online for all the updates of what we’re doing! Social media, too! Give us money on Patreon so Bryan Callen can buy books for orphans, or something like that, and use our Amazon affiliate links!

1h 20m
Apr 16, 2018
Ep 338 - Innovative Metaphor: Ken Gordon

Ken Gordon's company helped invent the Swiffer, portable insulin pumps, and much much more. In this episode of Mixed Mental Arts, he shares how his innovation process is based so much on literature and metaphor. Don’t forget to go to https://mixedmentalarts.online https://mixedmentalarts.online for all the updates of what we’re doing! Social media, too! Give us money on Patreon so Bryan Callen invent better sex robots, or something like that, and use our Amazon affiliate links!

1h 16m
Apr 13, 2018
Idea Quickie 6: Reflections (Repost)

From Oct 28, 2013 Bryan and Hunter take this episode to reflect on and synthesize everything they've learned over the course of the last dozen or so episodes recording the show together. From the philosophy of Professor Dan Robinson to understanding human memory with Josh Foer, it's been a wild ride. This was a much needed opportunity to digest all they'd learned and pull out the big overarching lessons they've learned in talking to so many awesome guests. Go to our website, https://mixedmentalarts.online and support us through Patreon, Paypal, or our Amazon affiliate link! Money goes to support the people who work on the podcast, and Bryan Callen's cheese habit.

59m
Apr 11, 2018