UFOs. Who are they? What are they? And WHERE are 'THEY" coming from? In this episode of The N&H podcast I'm joined by my very special guests Leslie and Stephan Shaw, we'll be chatting about their book "Who THEY ARE AND WHAT THEY'RE UP TO?"

Both Leslie and Stephen Shaw have a lifelong love affair with the UFO phenomenon and consider themselves to be armchair ufologists. Stephen and his family were victims of the abduction phenomenon and they are both UFO witnesses. Leslie has been a journalist for the last 18 years and still works for the newspaper. Stephen is a retired acupuncturist and tai chi teacher.

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