In this episode of WILTBY Josh interviews Louis.

— (4:50) Josh processing his 2-wing and meeting Louis at the zone / the team love vs team truth confrontation
— (11:45) 3w2 facilitating and orchestrating connection vs 3w4 distant excellence
— (16:35) The philosophy of truth vs love in psychotherapy
— (20:49) Carl Rogers unconditional positive regard
— (29:30) What Josh finds annoying about 4 skepticism of love and connection
— (33:39) Louis’ identification with predator swag 
— (42:24) 3w2 vs 3w4 in a team scenario / team vs self orientation 
— (48:31) How Josh realized he had a 2-wing / Louis’ social mode of separateness and why he became a therapist
— (57:41) Differences in processing negativity and aesthetic frustration
— (1:09:51) The 3w2 tenet of always having something to appreciate about anything 
— (1:24:08) The ideal ego fantasy for 3w2 vs 3w4

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