As the 2024 GOP hopefuls gathered in California to debate, the barbs
aimed at Donald Trump were more pointed, the elbows thrown at one
another were sharper, and all in all, the moderators let the exchanges
careen out of control. And yet, for all of that, the debate largely fell
flat: Nobody’s performance was strong enough to touch Trump’s massive
polling lead. What exactly happened? Playbook co-author Ryan Lizza talks
it all through with national politics correspondent Adam Wren, who
covered the debate in person, and takes us behind the camera to reveal
how it played in the room.

Playbook co-author Ryan Lizza interviews national politics correspondent
Adam Wren.