Guests: 

Katie Noble, Director, PSIRT and Bug Bounty at Intel Corporation

On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/katie-trimble-noble-b877ba18a/

Harley Geiger, Founder and Coordinator, Security Research Legal Defense Fund

On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/harleylorenzgeiger/

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Host: Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]

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Episode Notes

In this episode of the Redefining CyberSecurity podcast, host Sean Martin is joined by Katie Noble, Director of Product Security and Communications at Intel Corporation, and Harley Geiger, a cybersecurity attorney at Venable LP. The episode provides a deep dive into the realm of vulnerability disclosure and the corresponding laws that shape its dynamics.

The insightful conversation unveiled vulnerability disclosure as a toolbox for receiving vulnerabilities from diverse sources and then subsequently identifying, mitigating, and disclosing them. Both Noble and Geiger highlighted the importance of this process in creating a more secure digital ecosystem. However, they identified some challenges which include technical literacy, uneven state laws, clarity on good-faith security research, and sanctions that restrict conversation about vulnerabilities with certain entities.

Furthering the discussion, they touched upon the implications of AI and services provided through APIs on vulnerability disclosure. They acknowledged AI as an enabler which necessitates creative thinking about new tools for infrastructure security. They also highlighted potential issues with cloud services and AI, along with the growing practice of identifying non-security harms such as bias and discrimination through similar disclosure processes.

While discussing the role of regulations and policies, the Noble and Geiger stressed these aid in setting security standards and issuing regulatory compliance. They emphasized that understanding regulation as a net good and engaging proactively with policy formulation can result in better product security.

The episode concluded with insights on how regulatory improvements could reduce liability and move the space forward. This includes improvements in state law, clarification around AI, and easing sanctions to allow dialogue around vulnerabilities.

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Resources

Hacking Policy Council - State Charging Policies for Good Faith Security Researchers: https://assets-global.website-files.com/62713397a014368302d4ddf5/64d3d1e780453a690d637186_HPC%20statement%20on%20state%20charging%20policy%20reform%20-%20August%202023.pdf

Hacking Policy Council - AI red teaming: Legal clarity and protections needed: https://assets-global.website-files.com/62713397a014368302d4ddf5/6579fcd1b821fdc1e507a6d0_Hacking-Policy-Council-statement-on-AI-red-teaming-protections-20231212.pdf

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