KEV Talks Podcast | Focusing on People, Process and Progress

Kevin Pannell, PMP


Leading and motivating teams to accomplish objectives while staying aligned within a shared process is challenging. To help you address this challenge, Host Kevin Pannell, PMP, and his guests share their industry-leading best practices that will save you time and provide actionable lessons to help you progress in your personal and professional life.

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1377 episodes

Don't Just Rinse and Repeat Your Projects | Foundations Friday 87

Sharing lessons I learned while reading Jack Kelly's book Band of Giants. More specifically, George Washington learned NOT to fight by watching the rigid British Military and then went on to adapt and stay dynamic as a leader while fighting for America's independence. __ __

Mar 24
The Definitive Guide to Start Training in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu - Part 2 | KEV Talks #25

I'm importing episodes 8-25 of the You-Jitsu Podcast, which was discontinued last week. In this Part 2 of 2 this episode compilation, I walk the listener further into the Jiu-Jitsu journey. In this episode: __ __

Mar 15
5 Ways to Embrace the Concept of Extreme Ownership | Foundations Friday 86

I talk about how "Extreme Ownership" has become very popular over the past eight years thanks to the incredible book by Jocko Willink and Leif Babin of the same name and the outstanding teachings from the Echelon Front organization. In the episode, I also share how extreme ownership has existed for over 1,000 years and was practiced by Marcus Aurelius, according to Ryan Holiday of "The Daily Stoic." the five barriers we have to accept ownership and the five ways to embrace owning up to mistakes.

Mar 12
The Definitive Guide to Start Training in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu - Part 1 | KEV Talks #24

I'm importing episodes 1-7 of the You-Jitsu Podcast, which will be discontinued next week. In this Part 1 of 2 episode compilation, I walk the curious through signing up for and attending a trial BJJ class and then share tips for when you sign up and start training regularly. Time Stamps: __ __

Mar 07
How to Improve from Suffering with Viktor Frankl's Tragic Optimism Approach | Foundations Friday 85

Man's Search for Meaning is the most influential book I've read. We learn about Frankl's loss and suffering, but more impactfully, about how he maintained optimism and hope during his agony in the Nazi concentration camps. In this episode, I share quotes from his book on the value of suffering and three key ways we can all use tragic optimism within our lives.

Mar 03
God and Gantt Charts - Expecting Trials in Life and Rewriting our Personal and Professional Scripts | KEV Talks #23

Great sharing wise words from Father Mike of the @hallowap on dealing with Temptation in life. While Father Mike focused on how we approach temptation in our personal lives, I also took the message to reinforce how we can look at fitness in our professional lives. Father Mike's guidance: __ __ __ __

Feb 28
How to Become a Mindful Warrior with Owner and Author Kim Colegrove | KEV Talks #22

In this episode, Kim Colegrove and I talk about her growing up in Kansas City, how she learned Meditation at a young age, the loss of her husband David to suicide, and how she and Pause First Academy provide First Responders and U.S. Military Veterans resilience training focusing on holistic wellness and work-life balance. __ __ Kim Colegrove is a veteran meditator and speaker with over 40 years of experience and the Author of Mindfulness for Warriors. In 2014, Kim lost her husband David to suicide, less than three months after he retired from a 30-year law enforcement career. She created The PauseFirst Project to honor David’s memory and to help other first responders cope with stress and trauma.

1h 2m
Feb 21
Where There is Simplicity, There is Efficiency | Foundations Friday 84

I share my perspective on creating more efficiencies when we teach people core troubleshooting and problem-solving skills like the Foundational Five

Feb 17
Why Developing Core All-Hazards Planning Skills are more beneficial than using the Hospital Incident Command System (HICS) | KEV Talks #21

My thesis: "Teaching Hospital and Healthcare personnel the skills and principles of All-Hazards Incident Management pay more positive dividends and develops more well-rounded response skills than teaching the same people how to follow the Hospital Incident Command System (HICS) structures." So, I believe using the standard ICS is more holistic and beneficial than using HICS. Episode takeaways: __ __ Remember...

Feb 14
Sometimes Escalation is Not Enough | Foundations Friday 83

I've found that I can raise an issue, whether asking for a critical decision, guidance, or awareness, that sometimes isn't enough. Sometimes, as Project or Program Managers, we can raise awareness, but maybe we don't have the right people assembled. Or, perhaps we have room to improve our communication around the issue. In this week's Foundations Friday, I elaborate a bit more on this.

Feb 10
How to Produce Powerful Product Solutions with Jillian Funes

In How to Produce Powerful Product Solutions with Jillian Funes, I was fortunate to speak with Jillian Funes, Technical Product Manager at Canopy Servicing. During our fun discussion, Jillian shared how she started in the Tech sector after transitioning from Psychology. We also learn how Jillian didn't enjoy Project Management very much, but that led her to a career field she enjoys, Product Management. Essential Product Management Tips: __ __ Thank you for listening to How to Produce Powerful Product Solutions with Jillian Funes. To learn more from Jillian, connect with her on LinkedIn here Learn more about the Fintech solutions Canopy provides at If you found this episode helpful, please leave a review on Apple Podcasts, subscribe, and share with your friends and family. Godspeed, Kevin

1h 4m
Feb 07
Training is Good, Practice is Better | Foundations Friday 82

During my conversation with Chase O'Donnell, Chase mentioned she had extensive training. She also mentioned that the level of formal training she completed is not necessary for acting or comedy. Throughout our conversation, Chase talked about how many times she was able to act, write jokes, and cold open shows. To me, this practical application is more valuable than the training that sets the foundation. This is what I expand on in this brief episode. *Check out Chase's comedy special on YouTube February 9, 2023 at Remember... __ __ ...and Godspeed Kevin

Feb 03
From Too Blondes to Touring the U.S. with Comedian Chase O'Donnell

Chase O'Donnell is hilarious, and her Instagram series of reels "If Musicals Were Real" is amazingly entertaining. Chase has been in "the biz" for quite some time. Chase grew up in a suburb of Los Angeles, started dancing at a young age, and made appearances on hit shows, including "Judging Amy." As Chase grew, she knew she wanted to make people laugh and pursued a career in standup comedy. Along the way, Chase wrote a play called "Too Blondes," in which she and Savannah Brown starred and received rave reviews. Feeling the call for home Chase went back west, kept doing standup comedy, and was fortunate (but also worked hard) to connect with Christina P., who is acting as a mentor in many ways. Chase is now opening for Christina P. on a national comedy tour, and now Chase has her very own comedy special coming out. Chase's special is called "People Pleaser" and will be released on YouTube on February 2, 2023. It was a pleasure to meet and talk with Chase, and I look forward to watching her continued success. __ __ Thank you for listening, subscribing, and sharing the KEV Talks Podcast. Read and listen to more great episodes at

Jan 31
Share Your Experience Before Your Opinion | Foundations Friday 81

While walking this morning I listened to one of my favorite podcasts, Masters of Scale with Reid Hoffman. This episode from Thursday, January 26, 2023, was part of the Rapid Response series and focused on how Lululemon CEO Calvin McDonald not only kept the doors of Lululemon open during COVID, but grew the business. In the episode, Calvin shares how within your first 100 days as a leader it's important to share experiences for teams to consider, but not necessarily your opinion that may sway projects in one direction or another. Calvin also states that your opinion when a leader new to the company may also be wrong. __ __ Thank you for coming back to the KEV Talks Podcast, and for subscribing, and please leave a review on Apple Podcasts. Remember... __ __ Godspeed, Kevin

Jan 27
How to Start Up a High Functioning Project Management Office with Katie McCullough, PMP, MHA

In this week’s episode, we’re lucky to have seasoned Information Technology and Healthcare leader Katie McCullough. During this episode, Katie shares her over 25 years of Healthcare and IT experience as Katie, and I talk through her top 5 tips leaders should consider if they want to start up and maintain high functioning ProjectManagement Office (PMO) for their organization. __ __ Thank you all for listening. It was great to catch up with one of the best leaders I've had in my professional career. __ __ __ __ Godspeed, Kevin

1h 3m
Jan 24
Are you Effective or Infective ? Leadership Lessons from Coach Prime | Foundations Friday 81

Deion Sanders or "Prime Time" is one of the greatest Defensive Backs to ever play in the National Football League (NFL). In fact, he was inducted into the NFL Hall of Fame in 2011. In addition to being a professional American Football player, Deion Sanders also put in a respectable career in Major League Baseball (MLB). But that's not why we're here today. Instead, we're going to focus on Deion Sanders' (now Coach Prime) positive impact on Jackson State University and the coaches, staff, and players there. Coach Prime leads from the front in the show of the same name on Amazon Prime. Coach Prime's statement, "Are you effective or infective?", the title of this episode, comes from the last episode of the series where Coach Prime puts a vote up to this team and coaching staff to help deal with someone spreading negative vibes throughout the Jackson State University football family. So, hit play and hear more about how this decision went and how we can all benefit from asking ourselves, "Am I being effective or infective?" when leading or part of sports, project, or public safety teams. Remember... __ __ Godspeed, Kevin

Jan 20
KEV Talks Podcast Trailer

"Hello and welcome to the KEV Talks Podcast. This is the podcast for anyone interested in hearing industry-leading, best practice processes, particularly from people in the Healthcare, Technology, and Public Safety spaces. Lessons learned are shared and knowledge is passed on through facilitated conversations or solo episodes with host Kevin Pannell, PMP. Kevin shares his 20+ years of experience as a US Navy Veteran, Public Safety professional, and Healthcare IT Program and Project Manager. In the end, this podcast is for everyone, especially those who want to make progress in their personal and professional lives." __ __

Jan 19
Modern Day Leadership Guidance from Civil War Era Leaders with JD Baker of OMNA International

In November 2014, I was fortunate to meet JD Baker on the hallowed grounds of Gettysburg National Military Park. JD walked my fellow Public Safety and Incident Management Team (IMT) members and me through leadership decisions made on the same grounds 151 years earlier. This event was called a "staff ride" and was part of the L-580 Leadership is Action course. L-580 is designed to teach senior IMT leaders historical leadership lessons that can be applied in the modern era. This staff ride has had a lasting impact on me personally and professionally ever since. I'm fortunate to have JD Baker as a guest on this episode as we talk about the leaders, decisions, and actions that shaped the Union and Confederate Armies leading up to the Battle of Gettysburg. __ __ Thank you for listening, subscribing, and leaving a review. Remember... __ __ Godspeed

1h 15m
Jan 17
Use 360 Feedback to Measure Your Effectiveness as a Leader | Foundations Friday 80

Sharing the concept of 360-degree feedback as a way to gather objective and anonymous feedback from your teams. Then, you can use this feedback to do continuous improvement on yourself as a leader. __ __ __ __

Jan 13
Outcomes of Effective and Ineffective Leadership Behaviors

Sharing the leadership principles from Unit 2 of the United States Fire Administration (USFA) Type 3 Incident Management Team Training or O-305 course. __ __ Remember... Have a plan | Stay informed | Get involved | Godspeed

Jan 12
3 Life Lessons from my Alpha Dog Gringo | Foundations Friday 79

On January 5, 2023, my wife and I decided to put our dog Gringo down. He fought a good fight against Lyme Disease and old age, but it was time. This is never easy. We've had to make this decision twice before, and each time it broke our hearts. Gringo was a true Alpha Dog. He loved humans and set the tone around other dogs. In this episode, I'm sharing three life lessons I'll carry with me that Gringo taught me. __ __ Godspeed and RIP Gringo. We know you're leading the pack in Heaven.

Jan 06
Practical Application of 12 Project Management Principles

In Practical Application of 12 Project Management Principles from the PMBOK 7th Edition I share my $.02 on how to apply these helpful principles in the real world of Program and Project Management. The 12 principles listed and explained in detail in the Project Management Body of Knowledge (PMBOK) 7th Edition provide helpful guardrails for new and seasoned Project and Program Managers. Throughout this episode, I'll list each principle from the PMBOK, then elaborate on how I've seen the principles applied well, and not so well, and how the listener can consider using the concepts in their day-to-day work. The 12 Principles __ __ Have a plan | Stay informed | Get involved More at

Jan 03
Start 2023 Strong with these 5 Supplements | Foundations Friday 78

On this FF78 I’m going to share the top 5 supplements I take every day that I feel help me maintain good health and get better sleep. The Supplements: __ __ More "Stuff I Use" at Have a plan | Stay informed | Get involved

Dec 30, 2022
How You Can Apply 7 Key Life Lessons I Learned in 2022

In How You Can Apply 7 Key Life Lessons I Learned in 2022 I’m sharing 7 of the most impactful lessons I learned and helped teach myself in 2022. More importantly, I’m going to share how you can learn from my challenges and kick off 2023 on the right foot. __ __

Dec 26, 2022
2020 Summary Findings from a Study on the Health of our Emergency Responders | Foundations Friday 77

Sharing the summary and focus areas to help improve the overall health of our Emergency Responders. The summary is from a 2020 CrewCare report by ImageTrend. It includes feedback from over 4,100 Emergency Responders. Key takeaways: __ __ Read the full study at __ __ Godspeed

Dec 23, 2022
Helping Emergency Responders SUCCEED, THRIVE and MATTER with Rhonda Kelly and the All Clear Foundation

On this episode of the KEV Talks Podcast (  @kevtalks, Host Kevin Pannell and Rhonda Kelly, Executive Director of the All Clear Foundation ( @allclearfdn, talk about how Emergency Responders can succeed, thrive, and matter using tools provided by the All Clear Foundation. Viewers and listeners will also learn about Rhonda's transition from providing emergency medicine aboard an icebreaker ship through her time on shift as a Firefighter and becoming the Executive Director of the All Clear Foundation. - Connect with Rhonda on LinkedIn at - Follow the All Clear Foundation on Instagram and YouTube at  @allclearfdn - Learn more about the programs All Clear has to offer at Thank you for watching this video, subscribing, and listening to the KEV Talks podcast. Follow KEV Talks on Instagram and Twitter @pannellkg, and look for the KEV Talks Podcast on Facebook. Remember... - Have a plan - Stay informed - Get involved Godspeed, Kevin Kevin Pannell, PMP | Founder of KPannell Productions, LLC | Creator & Host of the KEV Talks and You-Jitsu Podcasts | Principal on the @Pannell5Fit and KEV Talks YouTube Channels

Dec 20, 2022
Lavender Oils for the Win (A Science-Backed Sleep Solution) | Foundations Friday 76

In Lavender Oils for the Win (A Science-Backed Sleep Solution) I share the results of a 2015 scientific study. The study was conducted by Angela Smith Lillehei, Ph.D., Linda L. Halcón, Ph.D., MPH, RN, Kay Savik, MS, and Reilly Reis, MS that included 79 college students that reported difficulty sleeping. Lavender oil patches were used on college students in conjunction with good sleep hygiene habits (see Got Sleep Alternatively, the other group also practiced good sleep hygiene, but without the added lavender oil patch. If you want to dive deeper on essential oils listen to the great conversation I had with Dr. Tracey Marks on the episode Dr. Tracey Marks | Dealing with and Treating Anxiety Want to learn more than what Dr. Marks and I talked about? Then you should read her book Why Am I So Anxious? __ __

Dec 16, 2022
7 Challenges Program and Project Managers Faced in 2022 (And How to Navigate Them)

Whether you're new to Project Management or a seasoned Senior PM leading program-level efforts, there are 7 challenges you will inevitably face. In this episode, I talk through these and provide a path for new or seasoned Program or Project Managers to not only navigate through or around these obstacles but to also excel in the process. The 7 Challenges: __ __ Thank you for listening to 7 Challenges Facing Program and Project Managers in 2022 (And How to Navigate Them). Do these challenges match what you've seen in the Program and Project Management world? Leave a comment on the post at __ __

Dec 14, 2022
Life is Full of Rewrites | Foundations Friday 02

I'm going back through old blog posts from and realizing how much better I am now at writing posts and recording podcast episodes than I was 1, 2, or 3 years ago. I also thought today how life is full of rewrites. __ __ It's never too late to make a change. __ __ Godspeed.

Dec 09, 2022
Stutz | You Have a Dog in the Fight

This episode is part film review of Stutz and a sharing of tools and techniques Jonah Hill and Phil Stutz provide the viewer in the documentary film of the same name. __ __ Have a plan | Stay informed | Get involved |

Dec 06, 2022